Claramente lo que esperaban escuchar era la palabra
women.
¿Quedaría bien decir
boys si la ropa fuese para el mismo tipo de clientes pero del género opuesto...?
Creo que a pesar de sus malas formas, la tipa estaba dando feedback de manera sincera.
Aquí este tema ya estuvo en el candelero hace unos meses.
BBC Ban The Use of The Word 'Girl', But Is It A Sexist Term?
The Huffington Post UK | By Rachel Moss
Posted: 27/05/2014 17:00 BST Updated: 28/05/2014
When we're at school, we expect to be described as 'girls' - but is the term an acceptable way to address adult women?
The BBC took the decision to censor the word 'girl' in a recent broadcast on the grounds that it could be considered sexist.
Presenter Mark Beaumont was being filmed sparring with judo champion Cynthia Rahming and after he was sent crashing to the floor, he said: “I am not sure I can live that down - being beaten by a 19-year-old girl.”
When the episode of The Queen's Baton Relay was originally aired in April on the BBC News channel, the remark was broadcast in full.
However, the word “girl” was edited out of a repeat of the programme.
The BBC's decision to censor the word has divided opinion.
Lecturer in literature and public engagement and HuffPost UK Blogger B.J. Epstein does not think that women should be referred to as 'girls'.
"I really dislike the word girl! I think it’s appropriate to use it to refer to females up until, say, the age of 11 or 12, but not after that.
"I find it offensive when people refer to young women or adult females as “girls” because it diminishes who and what we are, and makes us seem young and unimportant," she said.
Epstein also highlighted the different ways men and women are addressed:
"I would never refer to colleagues as “boys”, nor would I call grown men “boys”, and yet people, especially men, continually do this to me and to other women.
"I don’t think we need to ban the usage of the word, as it is appropriate for some people in some situations. But I do think we need to encourage mindfulness about language in general, and the employment of this word specifically."
Writing for The Guardian, Naomi McAuliffe said that the meaning of the word "girl" changes depending on the context it is used in.
Co-founder of The Vagenda Holly Baxter agrees: "In principle, I do think that the routine use of 'girl' to describe young women when their male counterparts of the same age are being referred to in the same context as 'men' needs to be rethought.
"But I agree with Naomi McAuliffe that the usage depends so much on who is saying it, to whom, about what, and in which environment," she told HuffPost UK Lifestyle.
Olympic Champion Anna Watkins told us she agrees with the BBC's decision to cut the exchange between Beaumont and Rahming.
"In rowing, we would call ourselves the girl's team informally (and also refer to the 'boy's team'), but publicly it's definitely the Women's Team, and Women's Double, and there's nowhere more public than the BBC!
"So I think it's right that they stick to that. 'Girl' is fine as an informal description but it also sounds a bit juvenile so I wouldn't want to be called that in a professional environment," she said.
No sé si es por sexismo, etimología, o por tontería, lo que es seguro es que esto es cien por cien typical british. A esta gente le gusta debatir sobre cualquier tema y hacer montañas de granos de arena.
Me imagino perfectamente un sketch en el que se viese el edificio de la BBC ardiendo por los cuatro costados mientras, dentro, los de la dirección de programación están tranquilamente sentados, taza de té en mano, discutiendo sobre si censurar o no una palabra de un programa, no se vaya a ofender una abuelita en Chichester.
Sí, girls significa chicas y parece que no debería haber mayor problema. Pero nosotros podemos decir de manera formal sobre una niña pequeña: "
Esa nena ya está aprendiendo a andar", pero no podremos usar de manera formal ese mismo "
nena" para mujeres, salvo en contextos informales:
"Hoy van a venir de fiesta unas nenas espectaculares..."
Lo mismo con nene:
"El nene está aprendiendo a andar" - "Venga nene, date prisa"
Es un ejemplo tonto, pero que sirve. La misma palabra es de uso formal a una edad, e informal a otra edad.
En cualquier caso, en el apartado de etimología sobre la palabra girl ya se advierte que dependiendo del contexto, el tema puede ser delicado:
Usage for adults
The word girl is sometimes used to refer to an adult female, usually a younger one. This usage may be considered derogatory or disrespectful in professional or other formal contexts, just as the term boy can be considered disparaging when applied to an adult man. Hence, this usage is often deprecative.[SUP][1][/SUP]
Que aquí los foreros se hagan sus pajas mentales ignorando por completo diferencias culturales o etimológicas para seguir aporreando el tambor al son que les da la gana es una cosa, pero creo que el compañero de Stoke-on-Trent debería estar bien aware de que, por muy absurdo que sea, hay cierta sensibilidad con ese tema, al menos en cuanto a contextos formales.
Vamos, que por muy ridículo y tonto que sea todo esto, la morena os ha dado
interesting food for thought que seguramente no vaya nada mal en el futuro. It's not personal, it's just business y tal...
Para arrojar algo más de luz sobre este tema, ahora nos vendría bastante bien contar con un Evaldo Sabelotoldo Faldo natural de Kent.
Cuatro posts este año en el subforo ligue... estoy desatado.
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