MalPaisPokah
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Publicado: Dom Abr 06, 2008 2:14 am
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IuGa rebuznó:...Para mi lo más interesante de los psilocybes es la increible sensación de paz y harmonia que permanece en el cuerpo cuando los efectos han pasado.
Uncle Meat rebuznó:Perdona que dude de la veracidad de tu experiencia. Me parece demasiado, ¿cómo decirlo?, estructurada, detallada y, en definitiva, de libro -algo intrínsecamente opuesto a un delirio provocado por una sustancia de ésas-. De ser cierta, lo única explicación que encuentro es lo anteriormente mencionado del episodio de los Simpsons o que igual los primeros hombres que idearon construcciones como las pirámides también se pusieron ciegos con esas setas.
MalPaisPokah rebuznó:Por cierto, ¿ has probado dicha sustancia ? En ese caso. ¿ No tuviste ninguna visión ?
Yo la he probado en varias ocasiones, y únicamente la primera es la que me ofreció esa visión, ya no he vuelto a probar porque le tengo respeto ya me la última vez tuve un mal viaje.
Uncle Meat rebuznó:No, no he catado nada de eso nunca. Con lo aprensivo que soy, tendría un ataque de pánico cósmico y comidas de tarro durante milenios. Ya tengo bastante con lo endógeno.
Hay mucha, mucha gente ida para siempre de la olla por viajecitos de estos.
My friend ate too much mush tonight and is tripping hard, having panic attacks.
What can I do to help him?
One thing I always have felt was a calming thing when having a fearful experience is somewhat simple.
Tell him that it is his own mind, no matter how real things are, tell him that he will regain normal reality within a matter of time, and that in that time period you will not leave his side or let anything happen. Tell him that it is okay to let go, and let his mind and consciousness go where it may, and that his physical self will remain in your care. Hearing this will at least help him feel open to the trip. Usually in a panic experience, I have noticed with most people it is usually at its worst when they are unable to let go of control, and they are fighting it out of fear. If he is a friend and you are a friend to him and he feels trust in you, reassuring him that you will not leave his physical being will possibly be enough for him to feel safe in letting go.
Then, and only after then, you can try to change the mood and setting. Try removing distractions that may be too much such as a TV being on, or too much light, too much noise, etc. If you know him well enough to know his music tastes and what he might find relaxing to listen to, try putting something on at a low but noticable volume. In a very calm tone ask if that is alright, the calm tone and asking if its okay should put even more of a caring for him situation which will also possibly aid in him just letting himself go with it. If he feels an urge to talk, but is not forming proper sentences, just listen, sort of agree, try to keep input that will cause an over production of thought or overload out, just listen, if he seems like he is struggling to say something and cant, just very calmy, non offensively, let him know its okay if he cant explain it, and that there is no need to if he feels like he cant.
This may all seem common sense, but the slightest variations in tone and mood that you give off can affect him. And the tiniest of certain reassurances and changes in environment can comfort him.
I have tripped and had horrible terrifying feelings, but the simplest things to reassure safety and the smallest changes in setting have drastically changed the experience, so much so that I have even had 2 hours that seemed to me as years that had gone by slowly of pure terror and pain, that had been turned around into a euphoric and deeply spiritual experience for the remainder of the trip.
I hope this helps. If anything I said was worded strangely, I apologize, its actually taking me quite some time to type this and I myself from the overload and fighting for control and having a bad time (I am having on and off coming and going in and out effects from salvinoran A [pure form] so i am having a very hard time with this, even though I am about 2 hours past the peak of my effects) but the difficulty and brief seconds of off and on frustration isnt a big deal because I feel that maybe I could give you decent advice to help, and I would like to know that I aided in your friend having a more deep, if not enjoyable at least well worth it experience than an overload and panic.
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