NBA - Gástate los orocs, Lebron/m

Pues aparte de con Cleveland, van a perder el factor cancha con Orlando.

Y gracias a los subnormales de GSW, que solo se dedican a joderme ultimamente, Oklahoma cae al octavo puesto.
 
daktadrei rebuznó:
Oklahoma cae al octavo puesto.

No me lo esperaba. Empatados Balzers, Spurs y Thunders a falta de dos partidos para acabar y San Antonio juega hoy con los tristes Wolves +1v fijo. Vaya tres cocos para la racha de los Lakers
 
Artest rebuznó:

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Y esta noche es el OKC @ Portland que será muy clave para ambos equipos. Empieza a las 4.00, díficil estará verlo.
 
Pues espero que ganen los Thunder, no hay equipo que me aburra más que Portland, espero que les toque contra Kobe y cía y les manden a tomar por culo.
 
wqR rebuznó:
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Y esta noche es el OKC @ Portland que será muy clave para ambos equipos. Empieza a las 4.00, díficil estará verlo.


Joder, me ha pasado por alto el partidazo del mes .... Citys Thunders ....
 
Yo preferiria un derby Heats-Magics. Y una pena que los Memphis se hayan quedado fuera de playops.
 
Yo preferiria un derby Heats-Magics.

:lol::lol: Hijo de puta.


En el este parece que está casi todo definido aunque puede haber cambios de última hora aunque seguramente quede así la cosa:

Cleveland - Chicago
Charlotte - Orlando (gran serie a priori, Larry Brown es un hijo de puta pero vaya trabajo que ha hecho este año)

Boston - Milwaukee/Miami
Atlanta - Milwaukee/Miami

En el oeste hasta el último día puede cambiar todo menos la posición de los Lakers.
 
¿Tan bien lo hizo anoche Sergio Rodriguez con los Knicks? O son pajas de Marca?
 
Marv34 rebuznó:
¿Tan bien lo hizo anoche Sergio Rodriguez con los Knicks? O son pajas de Marca?


El que realmente se salio fue Gallo, a Sergio le van a meter en breve una patada en el culo bastante considerable.
 
Interesantísima entrevista con Shane Battier,uno de los pocos jugadores de la NBA que no da vergüenza ajena oírle hablar.

Está en inglés pero se entiende muy bien.Habla de como mejorar la NBA,empezando por crear una "Copa del Rey" que sustituiría al All Star.La verdad es que los mejores equipos de la NBA en una misma ciudad,en partidos eliminatorios,jugándose algo,sería la hostia.

Después dice que habría que acortar la liga y después,s he entendido bien,que solo los 6 primeros de cada conferencia tengan garantizado los play-offs y los otros jueguen partidos de eliminación por las otras cuatro plazas,para que haya lucha hasta el final para todos los equipos.


Shane Battier's plans for a bigger and better NBA


Jason Friedman
Rockets.com Staff Writer

HOUSTON - Defensive ace, team leader, karaoke star – Shane Battier is a man of many talents. Yet whether he’s learning how to lock his man down or rocking the microphone, one thing remains constant: his mind never stops contemplating ways to make the NBA even bigger and better than it already is.

For that reason – and, let’s face it, quite a few others – many have pegged Battier as a future candidate for NBA commissioner. But the Rockets forward says he’s not interested in David Stern’s position; he’d much rather serve as a one-man think tank, brainstorming ideas and creative solutions in order to generate more excitement and foster growth among the league’s global fan base.

So with that in mind, Rockets.com’s Jason Friedman sat down with Shane to pick his brain and discuss some of the ideas he’d love to see implemented. What follows is a transcript of their conversation.

JCF: Let’s start by talking about an idea you threw out there a while ago; one that sort of flew under the radar a bit but I think presents an awesome opportunity for the NBA and its fans. Let’s talk King’s Cup.

SB: As an NBA fan, I’m always thinking of ways to improve the game because I think it’s the best game in the world featuring the most skilled athletes in the entire world. I think there are ways to generate even more excitement. Because in this digital age, whether we like it or not, the public is changing their tastes and you have to keep up with the times and sort of reinvent yourself to keep eyeballs on the game.

There are a couple things you can do to enhance the NBA experience. One of my ideas comes from a conversation with Luis Scola, who played in Spain for many years. Every year, instead of having an All-Star game, around midseason they would have the Spanish League’s King’s Cup, where the top-8 teams would come to a city in Spain. Their fans would travel and they’d have a 3-day single elimination tournament. It’s a very prestigious event, almost as prestigious as winning the Spanish League itself. It has tradition behind it and the teams really play hard when playing for the honor to be named King’s Cup champion.

I think it’s a wild idea to enhance the All-Star weekend but I think it would be a boon for the NBA and would create unbelievable excitement for basketball in this country. Just look at the NCAA tournament; America loves single elimination tournaments. It’s do or die, win or go home and they love the Cinderella. They love when the team that’s counted out wins. They love to see the powerhouses fall. That’s why the NCAA tournament is so great.

My idea for the NBA Cup – we’ll call it the Stern Cup for our purposes right now – is at the All-Star break you go to a football stadium anywhere in the country, set up a basketball court and you invite the top-8 teams regardless of conference to the Stern Cup. So you have the best eight teams in the NBA at that point in the season and you play a single elimination tournament.

You have 4 games on Thursday and the semi-finals on Friday. On Saturday you can have the dunk contest, 3-point shoot-out and all the events they have now and then on Sunday you have the Stern Cup championship. If you want to change up the order and have the dunk contest between games to create excitement, I think that’s a great idea, too. You can have the rookie-sophomore game scattered in there somewhere as well.

Can you imagine a Friday semi-final where Carmelo Anthony would play LeBron James in one game and Kobe Bryant is playing Dwight Howard in the other one? In back-to-back games at the same location?

You’re playing for something. It’s not just a regular game on ABC or FSN. You’re playing for a championship. I think it could be an incredible event that creates a lot of revenue and a lot of interest in the game.


JCF: So would this take the place of the All-Star game?

SB: Yes, I would replace it. People want to see the stars compete and the All-Star game, for as great as it used to be in the 80s and 90s, it’s lost some of its luster. I think you have to reintroduce some sort of competitive element back into All-Star weekend to regain some of the prestige that it once had.

You could even shorten the games to have two halves of 20 minutes each. I understand that the criticism would be that there’s going to be wear and tear, and the potential for injuries. Well guess what: we’re making some pretty good money with this event and we should have some interest in growing the game. I don’t think anyone would complain if you took away three games from each team’s exhibition schedule before the season in order to be able to hold an event like the Stern Cup.

JCF: Alright, well as long as we’re on the subject of making the league even bigger and better, what else have you got?

SB: I also like the idea that Bill Simmons came up with, where instead of the 1 through 8 playoff seeds being determined by record, I think we should only guarantee the top-6 spots in each conference. For the 7th and 8th spots, I think we could have another single elimination tournament – this time including only the non-playoff teams. The teams in the 7th and 8th spots can have byes to give them an advantage but this would give fans of the teams that aren’t in the playoffs something to really grab onto and give them something to cheer for. And it would discourage teams and players from, let’s say, starting their summer vacation early.

I think, again, this would create tremendous excitement for the league and it can only be a positive
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JCF: Speaking of those 7 and 8 seeds, you’re not a big fan of the first round of the NBA playoffs being best-of-7 affairs, are you? You’d rather see the little guy have more of a sporting chance, right?

SB: Changing the format back to best-of-5 creates more excitement and it gives the underdog, the lower seed, a better chance to win. There’s no question about it, it’s difficult for an 8-seed to beat a 1-seed in a 7-game series. I’m sure Daryl Morey can come up with some stat which gives you the exact odds of that happening.

I’ll never forget watching the Denver Nuggets beat the Seattle Supersonics (in the ’94 playoffs). That was tremendous basketball and I just don’t think that’s going to happen much at all in a 7-game series. You have to give, I believe, your fans a little more hope than they currently have in a 7-game series where the 8-seed faces the 1-seed.

The criticism from the first four seeds is that it’s not fair to them. Well, you know what? If you’re better, go out and prove it.


JCF: Fair, but some would say that the beautiful thing about the NBA is that the cream almost always rises to the top, ensuring that the best teams in the league end up winning out and moving on.

SB: Look, I want to see the best teams perform under pressure. That’s what makes sport what it is: people performing at the highest level with consequence on the line. That’s what makes LeBron James and Kobe so special: they deliver when the game is on the line. So if we create a more pressure-filled scenario like a best-of-5 first round series or a single elimination tournament like the Stern Cup, we see what an athlete’s made of. And that’s the beauty of sports.

JCF: You’re also a proponent of shortening the regular season as well, correct?

SB: There are too many throw away games in the NBA regular season. For anyone who’s gone through an NBA season, they know it’s nearly impossible to go maximum intensity for all 82 games of the year just because of the grind and the travel. I think the game suffers because of that.

Don’t get me wrong, we travel first class all the way. We have chartered flights, we have people who pick up our bags, so it’s absolutely the best it can be. But with that said, I still think the game suffers because we can’t be at our physical peak due to the overall grind. I think by dialing the season back to where we play 58 games and you play every team once – once at home and once away – you’re creating a more pressure-filled environment where every game means so much more, so you have to play at your best if you want to get into the playoffs. You can’t afford to have a four or five game losing streak in a shortened season.

I think the fans would appreciate it more, too. I know I’ve talked to a lot of NBA fans and they say, “I’d love to get season tickets but the commitment is just too great.” Instead of 41 nights a year, I think 29 home games is much more manageable for a fan. If I were a season ticket holder, I think I would appreciate that. Yeah, I’d love to see Kobe Bryant come to my arena twice a year. But you know what, I’d also like to see everyone play hard every single night in a pressure-filled situation. By shortening the season and creating that scenario I think you’d get that effect.


JCF: In other words, you want to make it a little more like football then.

SB: Yeah, that’s why the NFL is such great theater. Those guys are bringing it every single day and it seems to come down to the last game every single year. It’s great theater, it’s great drama and it’s great entertainment and that’s what our league is about, so let’s do everything we can to bring as much of it as we can to the NBA.

JCF: Are there any rule changes you’d like to implement?

SB: One rule that I wish they’d institute is I’d like to see them follow the college model and make technical fouls count as a personal foul. I understand there are times when the game is heated and people get into it but there’s no reason why you can’t control your emotions while you’re on the basketball court. So there should be a penalty for not being able to do that and the penalty should be a personal foul. You put your team in jeopardy of losing you as a player when you’re swearing and throwing a tantrum. I’m not saying that would stop all technical fouls but it would make more guys pause to know that they’re hurting their team by yelling at the official.

JCF: How about the lottery system? You guys are finishing strong despite having been eliminated from playoff contention. And while we all know it’s important to learn how to win and to establish that winner’s mentality, there’s also no denying the fact that it’s hurting your team’s draft position.

Or take a team like Indiana; some of their fans are actually upset because the Pacers are playing so well and adversely affecting their chances to win the lottery. I know this isn’t a new issue but it hardly seems fair to punish a team and its fans for playing hard down the stretch, even when all hope of a postseason appearance has been lost.

SB: I’d like to see a return to how it used to be where you take the non-playoff teams and give them equal odds in the lottery. That would deter teams from sending their players home early for summer vacation. It would improve the ratings for the lottery, I’ll tell you that for sure.

I have a problem when you just mismanage a team so bad and gut it – it’s not fair to the fans. Once you alienate those fans it’s hard to get them back because there are so many other things to do these days. Let’s really test these GMs and owners and hold their feet to the fire.


JCF: So here’s the real question: Have you approached David Stern about any of these ideas yet?

SB: I’ve been told that if I’m going to present these ideas to the commissioner then I better have the answers to all his criticisms of my plan. And the No. 1 criticism is going to be the division of money and loss of revenue from shortening the season or losing a playoff game or shortening the exhibition season. It has to be made up somewhere. But I think you can recoup those losses over the long run with TV deals and with the amount of revenue that’s generated by the Stern Cup. Those can easily replace the revenue lost by ditching a few preseason games.

We still have to innovate our game to make it more appealing. And I do think you can create interest without ruining the integrity of the game. I respect tradition, history and the records of the great players that came before us. But you don’t want to ruin the opportunity for growth because we’re too conservative in our thinking. I think those things I mentioned are minor ways to tweak the game so that the interest could really grow. And that’s what we’re trying to do. We’re trying to get more eyeballs on the game and create more interest.

You have to get creative with your selling of the product but I think over the long run you can attract more fans and those fans would be apt to buy more jerseys and buy more tickets and buy more souvenirs. I think it’s a great way to market the game and, more importantly, to make sure that the fans you have are fans for life.
 
Bastante díficil que se haga todo lo que dice Battier, pero algunas cosas como la Stern's cup (:lol:) si que sería interesante, aunque ya digo que no los veo muy por la labor de tanto cambio por allí.


Por cierto ya que hablamos de un tío bastante inteligente, Battier, hay que nombrar a uno que no lo es tanto, Derrick Coleman, 87 $ millones durante la carrera dilapidados, con deudas de 4 kilos a día de hoy :121


Penúltima jornada hoy de la regular season, Boston-Chicago, Sacramento-LA, Denver-Phoenix y Utah-G. State

Partidos importantes para todos menos los Warriors y Kings.

De lo de Lakers y OKC, ya habrá tiempo de hacer análisis cuando termine la temporada regular y estén todos las series decididas. Espero no ser el único pringui que se curre pronósticos y mierdas de esas.


Edito: Pronósticos a día de hoy (que difieren mucho de los de hace un par de meses :lol:)

MVP: LeBron
Jugador defensivo: D. Howard
Entrenador del año: Larry Brown
ROY: Tyreke Evans (asegurado tiene el 20-5-5 haga lo que haga hoy)
6to hombre: Crawford
MIP: No veo un favorito claro.
 
MVP: LeBron
Jugador defensivo: D. Howard
Entrenador del año: El de los ThunderS (¿Scott Brooks? no me acuerdo bien)
ROY: Tyreke Evans
6to hombre: Al principio veía a Landry, pero desde que se fue de Sacramento creo que será para Crawford, lo veo casi más claro que el mvp, aunque luego sorprenden y se lo dan a Terry.
MIP: Yo se lo daría a David Lee, tremenda su temporada, aunque mirando ahora sus estadísticas tampoco parece mucha la subida, aunque su papel en el equipo ha sido de megacrack.
GM del año: Al de los Cavs.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfNImZVk2hw
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Chicago gano anoche a los celtics y si ganan hoy o Toronto no gana están dentro. Enorme Rose con 39-7 con 15-22 en tiros, vaya final temporada que está haciendo a partir del all star. Chicago juega en casa de los Bobcats y Toronto en casa contra los Knicks.

Victoria importantísima de Phoenix que se asegura ventaja de campo en la primera ronda, aún puede quedar 3º de conferencia.

Por cierto que no se había comentado, Roy con muchas posiblidades de perderse los PO, vaya temporada con las lesiones que ha tenido Portland.


Por cierto ahora que lo veo en la portada de nba.com, Aaron Brooks tiene todas las papeletas para llevarse el MIP. Y sí, el entrenador de los Thunder es Scott Brooks.
 
Sobre el MVP,el rookie y el mejor defensivo,no creo que debiera haber debate.

El de entrenador se lo daba a Skiles porque nadie ha sacado mas con menos.

Y el de improved se lo daba a Marc o a Gallinari y me quedaba tan pancho.
 
Durant MVP, LeBron caca.

A ver como estructuran el quinteto ideal donde esos dos tienen que estar fijo. Howard como center 100% y luego vete a saber.
 
Durant se lo merece, pero LeBron ha tenido mejores números y además llegaron a 60 victorias.

Pues es verdad, Aaron Brooks es un perfecto MIP, yo a Gallinari no le veo un aumento tan grande como a Brooks o Lee

Los quintetos van a estar complicados.

Acabo de enterarme que Jordan le dió vía libre a Larry Brown para buscar equipo en verano, no se si es definitivo y sin opción a quedarse, y tampoco si lo ha solicitado el coach, la verdad que Larry es un trotamundos, pero normalmente se suele quedar más tiempo en los equipos. Un equipo que se plantea es Clippers, que con la plantillaza que tiene y con el verano por delante, estaría de puta madre ver que hace.
 
Lebron de cuatro by the face, Durant, Kobe y ..... Coñe y el base mas determinate de la liga ¿Billups, Nash, Deron? de vuelta al debate de los bases :lol:

Gallinari es caca de la que huele bien, pero caca al fin y al cabo. Me encantan sus triples a tabla en finales de posesion o mementos decisivos, creo haberle visto como que cuatro, pero seguro que han sido más

Entrenador del año Skiles y eso que de este tipo no hablan bien casi ningun nigga por lo estricto que es, equipo de blancos para él. A ver cuando se pueden quitar la losa de 17 kilos de Redd y consiguen a un Ariza y algo mas para hacer mejor equipo. Mira ya tenemos equipo para Rudy y marca por si falla el Mandril
 
Este año que no ha brillando Paul y, Nash y Billups andan viejunos dejaran la cosa asi.

Deron
Bryant
Durant
Lebron
Howard

Claro que eso seria obviar a Dallas y el temporadon de Nowitzki y teniendo en cuenta que Deron no tiene el peso marketing que Dirk lo mismo se la vuelven a gastar como hacen siempre con el y lo dejan tal que asi

Bryant
Durant
Lebron
Nowitzki
Howard


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Manu Carreño sobre la accion de anoche de Wallace: "La ha metido en su propia meta" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Hasta Manolo Lama se ha loleado diciendole burro
 
Hombre, pues si se le da el mejor coach a alguien por hacer más con menos... yo se lo daba antes a Rick Adelman, que sólo lleva 2-3 victorias menos y está en el Oeste, además perdieron a sus dos mejores jugadores desde la pretemporada.

Vaya lol lo de Sheed, que cojones hace :lol:
 
Lebrom rebuznó:
Vaya lol lo de Sheed, que cojones hace :lol:

En la toma de arriba parece como que se le escapase el balón de las manos.

En la NBA pasan demasiadas "cosas" de estas... Lo del otro dia de los Lakers fué como hecho a propósito, fallar los tiros libres, hacer falta cuando no tenia opciones de meter el triple. Pero es con lo que se flipan los americanos, con mierdas increibles como esas.

No veo lo de la "copa del rey" USA style. Principalmente porque mover un equipo NBA vale una pasta por toda USA, y no veo a los Lakers desplazandose a Texas para que en el primer partido se los follen y ale, pa casa otra vez... No es rentable.
 
Quiero creer que esta viendo que se le va a escapar el rebote y se lo van a quitar y pretende tirarlo a tabla para luego cogerlo, no creo que hiciese un Middelton
 
Pa mi es bastante claro que se le escapa de una mano, le rebota en la otra y como estaba "subiendo" pues la bola sigue la inercia y se va hacia el aro. Pero bueno, da igual, es igual de éstupido.

Cuando empiezan los Playoffs?
 
Memento rebuznó:
No veo lo de la "copa del rey" USA style. Principalmente porque mover un equipo NBA vale una pasta por toda USA, y no veo a los Lakers desplazandose a Texas para que en el primer partido se los follen y ale, pa casa otra vez... No es rentable.

Si hombre,como casi no viajan...

Un torneo de ese tipo tendría una rentabilidad enorme,muy superior a la de los All Star.

Lo complicado sería que cuajara,que se hiciese importante,que es precisamente lo que le falta ahora al All Star.

Si hoy es la última jornada,los PO empezarán el domingo,no?
 
Lebrom rebuznó:
Acabo de enterarme que Jordan le dió vía libre a Larry Brown para buscar equipo en verano, no se si es definitivo y sin opción a quedarse, y tampoco si lo ha solicitado el coach, la verdad que Larry es un trotamundos, pero normalmente se suele quedar más tiempo en los equipos. Un equipo que se plantea es Clippers, que con la plantillaza que tiene y con el verano por delante, estaría de puta madre ver que hace.

Larry Brown ha insistido hoy en que,se vaya este verano o no,Charlotte es su último equipo.
 
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